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Old 2005-06-12, 18:06
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Old 2005-06-12, 18:49
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As of today, and for an indefinate time hereafter, you are officially my hero. ^_^ Many thanks for your hard work in making this available to the rest of us!
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Old 2005-06-12, 19:17
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Good job.
Now, violence will ensure if someone does not start translating ひぐらしのなく頃に immediately.
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Old 2005-06-12, 19:20
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Neat, I'll start translating as soon as I get to JLPT 1. ('-`)>

As for one of the links-- Himeyashop is a pirate site, perhaps you should link instead to http://www.din.or.jp/~nekoneko/game.htm
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Old 2005-06-12, 19:28
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Yeah, I'll start translating... wait, what was I working on again?
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Old 2005-06-12, 19:42
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Good job.
Now, violence will ensure if someone does not start translating ひぐらしのなく頃に immediately.
And in our next action-packed episode of "AstCd2 Goes Homicidal" ...

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Himeyashop is a pirate site, perhaps you should link instead to http://www.din.or.jp/~nekoneko/game.htm
This I've not heard before. Explain.

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Yeah, I'll start translating... wait, what was I working on again?
Yeah, these days I have no idea what *I'm* working on, either. I thought it was some game or another, and somehow I ended up getting sidetracked into translating oodles of this strange documentation that seemed to come out of nowhere, and here we are -_-
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This I've not heard before. Explain.
http://www.hirahira.net/cgi-bin/Hira...r_bbs/aska.cgi is the full story I have
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Old 2005-06-12, 21:35
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Neat, I'll start translating as soon as I get to JLPT 1. ('-`)>
you and me both.
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Old 2005-06-12, 22:43
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Odd. Himeya Soft = C's Ware (the American subsidiary, actually, although the parent company has since been renamed too). As far as I know, they aren't normally known for counterfeit goods....
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Old 2005-06-12, 23:14
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I e-mailed Himeya about this, and got this response:

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Dear Seung,

Thank you very much for the question.
Just because we still have this software in our stock. So please hurry
as soon as someone else buy this title we'll sold it out^-^

Best regards,
Takashi Sakata

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Takashi Sakata
Himeya Soft, Inc.
533 Airport Blvd., #527
Burlingame, CA 94010, U.S.A.
http://www.himeyashop.com/
takashi@himeya.com
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This seems consistent with the behavior from Himeya that I've seen in the past -- they buy a certain stock of a game from the publishers, and then continue to sell that stock until they're sold out, even if the game is no longer published by the publishers. Indeed, there was a time a few years back when I managed to snag a copy of a game that had been out of print for several months, by sheer luck of the draw.

If this is what they're doing here -- and I have no reason to believe that they're not (the game in question would only sell in low volumes; it's entirely possible that they're still selling from the original stock they ordered over a year back; it had been available from their old site, shop.himeya.com, ever since 2004; the 'added dates' reflect when the item listing was added to the new *website*, not when the item itself was added to their stock) -- then that still falls under legal business practice. Hirahira made no formal recall of their product, AFAIK, they simply stopped selling it.

In the end, I suppose that I do not have enough information to know for a fact whether Himeya is selling bootlegs of the product in question, but given what I've seen of their conduct in the past, and given the above, I do not find it likely that they are a "pirate site". And I *do* know now that I have been given no evidence so far that would convince me to believe that they are. If you do have such substantive evidence, now would be the time to show it; otherwise, you stand to lose a good chunk of my respect.

One does not make these allegations lightly.
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My single experience with Himeya was purchasing the Kanon Standard Edition, and the product I recieved was most definately not a bootleg. Pirates generally don't take the time and effort to create the fancy packaging and inserts for their products that are commonly found in legitimate retail games. Now granted, my one order isn't nearly enough to speak authoratively on the store's conduct as a whole, but if an outfit has the means to pirate software on a large scale, I really doubt they'd bother to spend cash on even games with a ¥2,800 suggested price.

And is anyone else constantly creeped out by the insanely underage character designs in サナララ?
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Old 2005-06-13, 00:33
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My single experience with Himeya was purchasing the Kanon Standard Edition, and the product I recieved was most definately not a bootleg. Pirates generally don't take the time and effort to create the fancy packaging and inserts for their products that are commonly found in legitimate retail games. Now granted, my one order isn't nearly enough to speak authoratively on the store's conduct as a whole, but if an outfit has the means to pirate software on a large scale, I really doubt they'd bother to spend cash on even games with a ¥2,800 suggested price.
Himeya seems to have a fairly good reputation from what I've seen. In fact, in my experience, commercial piracy (both with bricks-and-mortar and online stores) appears to be relatively uncommon for renai games (with old and used games going for pocket change in Akihabara and whatnot) - even stuff I've ordered from Hong Kong before has turned out to be legitimate. My guess is that the majority of piracy in the industry probably happens over the internet, rather than in stores.

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And is anyone else constantly creeped out by the insanely underage character designs in サナララ?
If it's of any consolation, that's how Aoki Ume draws pretty much all his characters, regardless of age, so at least it's arguably (?) unintentional. Why, just look at the teacher...
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Yeah, I'll start translating... wait, what was I working on again?
Heh, I'm beginning to think RLdev will be stable by the time you need it. :p

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is anyone else constantly creeped out by the insanely underage character designs in サナララ?
No, the rest of us stopped looking when we saw how creepy they were.
シュミが面白いな、大聖勇士くん。
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シュミが面白いな
Oh no, I'm just as terrified of the designs as you - I've no intention of ever playing the game due to the characters alone; I was just commenting after following the link above to the game's homepage, and as I remembered there being some discussion about サナララ a while back.

Kindof along the same lines of why I'm never touching Kana: Imooto with even a 10-foot pole, despite a commercial English release and consistently good reviews on its story.

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It took me a little while to figure out the meaning of this line, but once I got it, I had to laugh. ^_^
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Old 2005-06-13, 06:01
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His "illegal" probably didn't mean as piracy, I think.

Selling on the general market openly is unfavorable for them because of their works are basically allowed as nonprofit works. Not selling their works in general circulation except by some specialized traders is tacit consent.

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No, the rest of us stopped looking when we saw how creepy they were.
hahaha (゜Д゜;) that's right *hide はじめてのおるすばん*
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