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Misu 2007-08-09 05:15

Planned Migration
Oh, the great ironies of it all. It looks as if I'll be requiring to move the forums back to phpBB ><.

This migration has been planned for a while now, but will be happening sometime relatively soon in the future. The current timeline right now looks like two to three weeks (most likely after the release of phpBB RC5 or Gold).

With that will come with another URL change ><. Where going back over to I'll place redirects from to the new URL, but since there will be a switch of software, doing fancy mod_rewrite redirects wont work so well...

Why does this need to be done?
Couple reasons..., the frontpage has stagnated a bit as of late because of lack of feature updates (ignore content issues for now >.>;;). The reason for this is that it's been frozen since I started working on the new version of VisualNews. One of the goals of version 4.0 is to combined the disjointed sections into a more coherent piece.
This is achieved through similar templating, single sign-on, and more integration between the three portions of the site (frontpage, Gemot, and the new section). To make my cookie life easier, I decided a while back to consolidate everything back under one domain instead of splitting up the sections via subdomains.
The move to phpBB3 also brings in other needed changes, such as converting the text type of the forums from ANSI to UTF-8.

So, thats that. Given that all the single sign-on will be be managed phpBB3, it is the first component that needs to be implemented.

But, I realize that this is a slight pain in the ass for all of you here, so I figured I'd spend a week or so and do a VisualNews Gemot cleanup project after the migration. During the cleanup project, all links pointing to and will be hunted down and pointed to the correct threads so that all of our internal forum links should work. Hopefully that will be enough of a consolidation that people wont kill me over another small move ^^;;...

Thanks for your understanding.

mutio 2007-08-09 06:43

Good luck with your migration! Your reasons sound logic, so I guess you didn't have much choice.
I'd still prefer VBulletin though, for me it's just the best forum out there (and aren't you a bit sad of the high price you paid for it?)

Misu 2007-08-09 06:48

There are quite a few features in vBulletin that I did enjoy. It's control panel is nice, and its available plugins are excellent.

The big killer for me in vBulletin was the utter lack of good RSS syndication tools from the forums. Maybe I got spoiled by bbPress, but I would like my forums to have syndication on at least a decent level instead of the poor implementation that vBulletin has. (And when I last checked, there wasnt any great plugins to fix that issue =3).

I dont mind price. It was fun getting to play with vBulletin and I think you can sell your license second hand, though don't quote me on that =D.

mutio 2007-08-09 08:00

No need, I have one myself xD.
Well, fortunately there was a good plugin for joomla, so vbulletin was the right choice.
Keep an eye on your data base, I've read so often about "shot" user data base.
But guess you have a few backups, it's not like you are a noob on this ;)

2007-08-09 08:02

@misu: is the migration already going on?

because is kinda ULTRASLOW for me. forum is working correct.

Misu 2007-08-09 08:10

No, its not, another part of the migration is moving the front page to the primary server (what the Gemot is on), instead of the downloads server (Dreamhost), so performance on all actual pages are always working and always responsive.
(aka: Were moving the frontpage from shared hosting to dedicated =D)

2007-08-09 08:12

strange. because yesterday the main site was working good and now it takes like 10 seconds only to "find" the page and 20 to load it. is here in 1 sec ;)

btw. it can't be my connection or routing because it was fast till yesterday. i have 8mbit cable con, so there should be no speed problem. is giving me a "timeout" sometimes when i try connection to so that's a sign that there is something wrong with the server or the eu/us connections and since the is working fine, it has to be the "server" :)

drmchsr0 2007-08-15 02:20

We're moving?


Personally, I'd advise against a move back to phpbb (security issues and whatnot...) but eh. You're the boss.

onyhow 2007-08-16 21:08

Hmm...good luck...

Icez 2007-08-17 04:13

Sounds good :)

The One Freeman 2007-08-18 21:20

I wouldn't worry about the security holes too much, I've only heard of a very small number of phpBB based forums actually getting hacked...and it was more like getting ahold of a password if anything.

2007-08-31 11:39

Any news? seems to be less sluggish, but you're still running on vb. Not that I'd complain ;)

Misu 2007-08-31 19:59

Hehe, yeah, actually, we had to hack up phpBB3 a bit too figure out vB's salt and password system. We figured that out about two days ago, so I'm going to do the migration sometime this weekend.

Misu 2007-09-04 06:42

Cool, well, we finished up the test runs this weekend and fixed most of the kinks, so I guess I can announce a migration date now.

We will be porting the Gemot to phpBB3 Saturday, September 8th, Pacific Standard Time. It will be down on that day for as long as it needs to be, but should be back up by the 9th.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Misu 2007-09-08 14:31

And this looks like it'll have to be pushed to sometime later this week due to work based time constraints....

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