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2008-11-25 04:50
Unregistered Guest here.

Jung rknpgyl unccrarq qhevat gur grez cerprqvat gur riragf va gur jbeyq?
Qvq gur urebvarf' "pbasyvpg erfbyhgvbaf" bayl bpphe VA gur jbeyq be fbzrguvat?

Just to clear up something that's been bothering me and my friend.
2008-09-11 16:22
jyuichi
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Originally Posted by kouryuu View Post
The prompt is "Do you know the world's secret?" Clicking yes, activates the flag saying that you've played through and viewed refrain. This does not mark any text as read, so yes, you have to play through... but it does however make the new character's arcs available as well as opening up the second endings for some characters like Yuiko, and the second refrain outcome.

But again, clicking yes and activating the flag will change the game, so It's highly recommended not to unless you've played the original. it's pretty much only there for those who have.
Does it unlock CG/Music/etc that were in the previous version?
2008-09-11 12:51
The prompt is "Do you know the world's secret?" Clicking yes, activates the flag saying that you've played through and viewed refrain. This does not mark any text as read, so yes, you have to play through... but it does however make the new character's arcs available as well as opening up the second endings for some characters like Yuiko, and the second refrain outcome.

But again, clicking yes and activating the flag will change the game, so It's highly recommended not to unless you've played the original. it's pretty much only there for those who have.
2008-09-10 17:47
jyuichi
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Originally Posted by Kealdrea View Post
Not a plot-related question, but there wouldn't happen to be a way to skip over just the text that's in the first game, would there? .-. (Aside from the ctrl button, I mean.)
According to the user manual, there is a prompt when you hit new game to skip all the old stuff. Since I haven't opened and installed the actual game yet, I am not sure how exactly this works but I am pretty sure I read that much right XP

If you don't read Japanese, look at page 5 of the user manual and when your screen matches the last screenshot on that page click the leftmost option. As a corollary, if you haven't played LB! click the rightmost option.
2008-09-10 13:58
Kealdrea Not a plot-related question, but there wouldn't happen to be a way to skip over just the text that's in the first game, would there? .-. (Aside from the ctrl button, I mean.)
2008-09-10 01:33
drmchsr0 STUPID SEXY RIKI

No srsly, thar be a TARP.
2008-09-07 13:08
EusthEnoptEron Thank you very much for the answer.
Since you warned me not to read it, before I played Refrain, I guess I have no other choice, but to go through the other routes & Refrain as well.

If I can hold back my curiosity, that is. But I think it's the least I can do to respect Key's work.
2008-09-07 10:31
Unregistered Hopefully you have read Refrain, because if you haven't, then this might not make much sense. And if you haven't read Refrain yet, stop reading now and go read it.

Seriously. Stop now.

It's your last chance.



Ernyyl, gur gernfher pbhyq unir orra nalguvat, fvapr Xlbhfhxr (Gbxvxnmr) unf cerggl zhpu shyy pbageby bire gur jbeyq gurl'er va. Fur nfxrq sbe n ovbybtvpny jrncba, naq ur tnir vg gb ure. N "frpbaq" Evxv jbhyq nyfb or rnfl sbe uvz. Gur gvzr znpuvar fgbel jnf cebonoyl whfg gb tvir Evxv fbzr ubcr (yrnivat uvz qrcerffrq jbhyq unir orra ntnvafg uvf bowrpgvir). Va nal pnfr, ur cebonoyl yrg ure fgnl jvguva gur jbeyq bs gurvef gb erfg, eryvir ure cnfg, naq rawbl gur srryvat bs orvat nyvir bapr ntnva, ng yrnfg sbe nf ybat nf gur jbeyq jnf nebhaq. Creuncf nf ncbybtl sbe qenttvat ure vagb vg va gur svefg cynpr.

Va bgure jbeqf, zberfb guna nal genafyngvba reebe, vg'f nyy Xlbhfhxr'f snhyg.
2008-09-07 01:42
EusthEnoptEron I just played through Saya's route and am now pretty confused. Probably because of errors in my translation. I would be glad, if someone could tell me, what I got wrong:





V fgneg bss jvgu gurve gernfher pbairefngvba:
Evxv guvaxf gur gernfher pbhyq or na HSB ratvar. Fnln jbhyq yvxr vg gb or n gvzr znpuvar. Evxv jbhyq hfr vg, gb frr ubj gur jbeyq unf nqinaprq, Fnln jbhyq engure tb vagb gur cnfg gb punatr guvatf. Ur nfxf ure, vs vg jbhyqa'g or onq, vs gurl pbhyqa'g zrrg va guvf pnfr - fur gryyf uvz, gung ur pbhyq pbzr jvgu ure gura.

Gnyx raqf, gurl fubbg qbja gb gur 7gu ynlre, fur gryyf uvz, UR vf ure cyna. Arkg fprar jr frr Evxv va ure pybgurf. Gbxvxnmr nccrnef, gryyf uvz gung fhpu n evqvphybhf cyna vf hfryrff. Fnln nccrnef oruvaq Evxv - Gbxvxnmr abgvprf, gung fur qvqa'g cyna gb hfr uvz nf yher, ohg engure nf fuvryq.
Nsgre Fnln gryyf Evxv, ur fubhyq sver ng Gbxvxnmr'f evtug fubhyqre, ur fgehttyrf n ovg jvgu uvf pbafpvrapr naq gura guerr fubgf erfbhaq.
Evxv tbg uheg ba uvf yrsg nez, Fnln tbg n tenmr jbhaq, naq obgu fubhyqref bs Gbxvxnmr ner ohttrerq. Ur nqzvgf uvf qrsrng naq gryyf gurz gung gurer'f nabgure jbexvat ryringbe. Evxv svefg qbrfa'g oryvrir uvz, ohg Fnln gryyf uvz, vg'f nyevtug. Fur tnvarq gur evtug gb bognva gur gernfher.
Gurl gura jnyx gb gur ryringbe, rkpunatr pybgurf bapr zber naq tb qbja jvgu gur ryringbe.

- Abj qbja gurer, jung V tbg orpbzrf shmml

Gurer'f whfg n ebbz oruvaq n jvaqbj, va juvpu bayl bar crefba ng n gvzr pna zbir serryl. Fnln tbrf vagb vg naq nsgre n juvyr fubjf ba gur bgure fvqr bs gur cnar. Fur purpxf fbzr qrivprf naq gura bar gvzr fur ybbxf ng ure oybbq-qlrq(?) unaq. Evxv trgf areibhf, uvgf gur jvaqbj naq nfxf jung'f tbvat ba.
Fnln nccebnpurf gur jvaqbj naq gryyf uvz, vg'f n ovbybtvpny jrncba. Naq vg'f sngny. Snerjryy.
Evxv abj vf cerggl nakvbhf. Ur gevrf gb fubbg gur jvaqbj - ohg jryy, Evxv-xha, lbh jba'g trg va jvgu whfg n srj bs gubfr yvggyr ohyyrgf. Ur abgvprf gung nf jryy naq guvaxf nobhg cvpxvat hc gurve zbafgebhf znpuvar tha ba gur 8gu sybbe.
Fur gryyf uvz abg gb. Gb gnxr ure ebhgr yrnqf gb n onq raq. Evxv nfxf ure qrfcnverq, jung fur zrnaf jvgu gung.
Synfuonpx gb gur gvzr, Gbxvxnmr nfxf sbe jung fur frrxf.
Urer jung V tbg gurer:

Gbxvxnmr: Gur gernfher lbh frrx... jung vf vg?
Fnln: ...n ovbybtvpny jrncba.
Fnln: Zberbire n fhcrevbe bar. Jvgu greevoyr vasrpgvbhf pncnpvgl, juvpu pbhyq whfg yvxr gung qrfgebl na ragver pbhagel.
Gbxvxnmr: V frr... fheryl lbh nyfb gubhtug nobhg guvf xvaq bs gernfher.
Fnln: Lrf. N guvat juvpu fubhyq ol ab zrnaf or qvfpbirerq. Juvpu vf na nccebcevngr zrnfher sbe vg.
Fnln: Ubj vf vg? Vf vg vzcbffvoyr?
Gbxvxnmr: Vg'f fvzcyr...
Gbxvxnmr: Ohg...
Fnln: ...ohg?
Gbxvxnmr: ...ner lbh ernyyl bxnl jvgu guvf?
Fnln: ...lrf.
Gbxvxnmr: ...haqrefgbbq.

Onpx gb Fnln'f obql, fur frrf Evxv-xha uvggvat gur jvaqbj. Fur gura gunaxf uvz sbe inevbhf guvatf. Riraghnyyl fur tbyqf ure tha ng ure grzcyr. Ohg ntnvafg jung fur cynaarq, fur fgnegf gb pel. Fur bapr zber gunaxf Evxv naq jr bapr zber fjnc gur ivrjcbvagf. Evxv nyernql fgbccrq fubhgvat. Abj gurl'er bayl ybbxvat va rnpu bgure'f rlrf naq Evxv-xha jnagf guvf zbzrag gb ynfg sberire. Va uvf yvggyr rgreavgl ur erpnyyf frireny pbairefngvbaf jvgu Fnln. Ur ntnva erdhrfgf guvf gb or rgreany. Ohg gura -> onat, n fubg.

-- abj urer'f jurer V qba'g trg gur zbfg guvatf naq V guvax V genafyngrq snhygl

Ur jnxrf hc pelvat va uvf orq, Xlbhfhxr ol uvf fvqr. Jnf vg nyy n qernz? Ur gryyf Xlbhfhxr, gung uvf inyhrq cnegare qvfnccrnerq. Xlbhfhxr gryyf uvz gura, gung ur urneq gurve fgbel, va juvpu gurl sbhtug ntnvafg gubfr qnexarff rkrphgvirf. Ur gnyxf gb Evxv nobhg gung vg jbhyq or n terng qvfpbirel vs gurer jnf n gvzr znpuvar. Evxv gura guvaxf nobhg, vs uvf zvaq tbg pbashfrq nsgre gurl tbg qbja naq vs fur ernyyl rfpncrq gb gur cnfg jvgu vg. Ohg bar dhrfgvba erznvaf:
"Evxv: Vs gung'f gur pnfr... jul qvqa'g fur gnxr zr jvgu ure?"
Xlbhfhxr gryyf uvz, gung vs gurer jnf bar, vg jbhyqa'g arprffnel zrna, gung ur qvqa'g trg ba vg.
Naq abj gurer ner gjb Evxvf va guvf gvzr. Fb Evxv pna'g xabj, vs gurl rira nyernql zrg.

^-- guvf fprar tbg fbzr pbashfvat qvnybthrf, fb V bayl jebgr ubj V vagrecergrq gurve pbairefngvba.

Abj ntnva va (F)nln'f ivrjcbvag. Fur jnxrf hc va sebag bs ure sngure. Ur nfxf ure, jung qernz fur unq. Fur gryyf uvz nobhg jung fur qvq naq gung ure cnegare sryy va ybir jvgu ure. Sngure nfxf ure, vs fur nyfb ybirq uvz, fur ercyvrf, gung fur ernyyl ybirq uvz, ohg arire pbhyq gryy uvz qverpgyl. Sngure abgrf, gung fur whfg pbhyq unir gbyq uvz. Nln ivaqvpngrq urefrys ol fnlvat, gung vg jnf ure svefg ybir naq bar qbrf fnl, gung gur svefg ybir jba'g jbex bhg. Sngure whfg "lner, lner"'f naq nfxf, vs "ur" gura nyfb unf n punapr. Nln nfxf nobhg guvf obl. Ur gryyf ure, gung vg'f gur bar fur nyjnlf cynlrq jvgu. Fur ercyvrf gung fur pbhyqa'g whfg vzzrqvngryl fjnc ure ybire. Sngure whfg gryyf ure, fur fubhyqa'g zvaq gur pbairefngvba gurl whfg unq naq fur fubhyq cynl nf nyjnlf. Fur abgrf gung vg'f cerggl zhpu n jbaqre. Gurl obgu ner anzrq Evxv. Sngure ynhtuf naq nfxf, vs fur qbrfa'g ybir guvf bar gbb, gura. Fur fnlf, gung guvf bar unf fgvyy fbzr jnl gb tb, tebjvat hc.

Naq svanyyl gurl cynl jvgu gur onyy.


Abj vs V tbg guvf evtug, gurer ner abj gjb "vafgnaprf" bs Evxv? Ohg jul jnf vg n gvzr znpuvar naq abg n ovbybtvpny jrncba gura? V thrff V genafyngrq fbzrguvat jebat gurer. Vg'f yvxr tebcvat va gur qnex, arire xabjvat vs V haqrefgbbq guvf abj evtug.
2008-08-08 23:20
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by Sieg View Post
Wow, thanks for the help. Saya's was even more deep than I expected! So, do these happen after Refrain or so? Because I always thought Refrain made the best canon ending so to speak.
Timeline-wise, both Kanata's and Saya's stories happen before the events of Refrain happen. Sasami's happens afterwards and make direct references to what occured. It's probably still okay to keep thinking of Refrain as the canon ending, in any case.
2008-08-08 18:55
Sieg Wow, thanks for the help. Saya's was even more deep than I expected! So, do these happen after Refrain or so? Because I always thought Refrain made the best canon ending so to speak.
2008-08-08 14:05
Unregistered Well, I'm bored enough. Note that for Saya's and especially Sasami's routes, you must have read Refrain to be able to understand parts of the story. ROT13'd for obvious reasons. I also might have gotten some things wrong. Who knows.

Starting out with Kanata's: Onfronyy tnzr raqf, naq gur ebbz gung lbh hfrq gb hfr nf lbhe pyho ebbz vf va qnatre bs orvat gnxra. Fb lbh tb gb uryc bhg va gur ubhfvat cynpr fb lbh pna xrrc vg. Xnangn unccraf gb uryc bhg gurer nf jryy. Fghss unccraf, onpxfgbel bs Xnangn + Unehxn'f cnfg vf erirnyrq. Ybat fgbel fubeg, Xnangn naq Unehxn unq gb or pbzcnerq ol gurve cneragf. Xnangn nyjnlf jba naq Unehxn raqrq hc orvat gnxra pner bs cbbeyl. Xnangn nyfb gerngrq ure cbbeyl, ohg nf na npg (nf nterrq hcba ol gur gjb bs gurz gb sbby gur nqhygf). Npg pbagvahrf hagvy abj, Xnangn'f abg fher vs fur qbrfa'g npghnyyl ungr Unehxn, rgp. Fghss unccraf, gurl znxr hc, Evxv naq ure fgneg tbvat bhg. Snzvyl pbzrf gb gnxr ure onpx, Evxv & pb. fgbc gurz, gurl (Evxv+Unehxn+Xnangn) qrpvqr gb eha njnl jura gur snzvyl gevrf gb zneel ure bss yngre. Gur raq. Penccl fhzznel sbe n ynpxyhfgre ebhgr.

Saya's: 3-4 cnegf gb guvf fgbel. Svefg cneg, Evxv tbrf gb trg n abgrobbx ur sbetbg va gur fpubby ng avtug, ohg zrrgf Fnln vafgrnq. Fur qebcf ure VQ naq Evxv tbrf gb tvir vg onpx gur arkg qnl. Fur vagebqhprf urefrys nf n fcl, naq gura chfurf uvz bss gur ebbs, gelvat gb xvyy uvz. Znfngb fnirf uvz. Fghss nobhg gur funqbj guvatf pbzr hc, Evxv unf gb xrrc dhvgr be fbzrguvat'yy unccra gb Eva. Fnln'f fgvyy gelvat gb xvyy Evxv ol unatvat uvz guvf gvzr, Xratb fnirf uvz. Evxv tbrf bhg naq vf nyzbfg xvyyrq n guveq gvzr ol snyyra cbjre yvarf. Znantrf gb yvir. Fnln gura erpehvgf uvz orpnhfr fur snvyrq gb xvyy uvz 3 gvzrf. Gurl farnx vagb gur fpubby ng avtug jurer gurer'f n uvqqra ynolevagu va bar bs gur pynffebbzf. Fbyivat chmmyrf, gurl trg guebhtu 8 sybbef bs gur qhatrba guebhtu zhygvcyr qnlf. Qhevat gur qnlgvzr, gurl unir yhapu gbtrgure, genva jvgu thaf, svaq naq trg evq bs bgure fcvrf, rgp. Evxv nyfb pbasrffrf gb ure bar qnl, juvpu znxrf sbe na vagrerfgvat punatr gb gur zvavtnzr. Gurl trg gb gur rvtugu sybbe gb svaq na ryringbe... jvgu 60 cbffvoyr sybbef. Ohg ab jbeevrf, gur yrnqre bs gur onq thlf (Xlbhfhxr jvgu n znfx) fubjf hc. Fnln tbrf bss gb svtug uvz nybar, qbrfa'g pbzr onpx. Naq guvf cneg bs gur fgbel raqf.
Frpbaq cneg vf nobhg Nln'f fgbel. Nln jnf n tvey jub geniryrq nebhaq gur jbeyq jvgu ure qnq, jub jnf n qbpgbe, urycvat uvz bhg. Fur zrg dhvgr n srj crbcyr, rira fbzr zvyvgnel fbyqvref naq jungabg (jung'f gur orfg tha lbh unir? Gur Z130). Ng bar gvzr, gurl erghea gb gurve ubzrynaq Wncna. Nln zrrgf naq cynlf jvgu n obl gurer, ohg gurl fbba tb onpx bhg gb qb qbpgbeyl fghss. Bar avtug, qhevat gur cbhevat enva naq urycvat crbcyr, Nln vf vaibyirq va na nppvqrag be fbzrguvat (V sbetrg jung rknpgyl). Fur qvrf. Gur cvpgher vg fubjf vf bs n tvey jub ybbxf yvxr n lbhatre Fnln (orpnhfr fur vf).
Guveq cneg vf gur "ercynl" cneg. Guvf ragver cneg vf sebz Fnln'f ivrjcbvag, naq vf onfvpnyyl sbphfrq ba tbvat guebhtu gur qhatrba ntnva. Rkprcg sbe guvf gvzr, gur chmmyrf ner uneqre naq zhpu, zhpu zber qrnqyl. Lbh npghnyyl unir gb qvr va beqre gb fbyir fbzr chmmyrf. Ohg fur trgf gb erfgneg ng gur ortvaavat rnpu gvzr, naq fur nyfb unf gur zrzbevrf bs gur gevrf orsber (rira sebz gur svefg cneg jurer lbh cynl nf Evxv). Gurl tb guebhtu gur ynolevagu, naq svanyyl znxr vg gb gur rvtugu sybbe, ntnva. Fur tbrf bss svtug uvz nybar, ntnva, naq ybfrf, ntnva. Xlbhfhxr vf nobhg gb renfr ure sebz gur jbeyq, ohg fur nfxf uvz gb nyybj ure gb fgnl gurer whfg gb shysvyy ure jvfu bs tbvat bhg ba n qngr jvgu Evxv. Naq gung vs fur pna qrsrng uvz arkg gvzr, ur jbhyq tvir ure gur gernfher ng gur obggbz bs gur ynolevagu. Ur nterrf, naq guvf cneg raqf.
Sbhegu cneg, jurer lbh fgneg sebz gur ortvaavat, NTNVA. Cerggl zhpu gur fnzr nf gur svefg gvzr nebhaq, ohg guvf gvzr, Evxv fgvyy unf srryvatf sbe Fnln sebz gur cerivbhf ehaguebhtuf, naq fb gurl orpbzr n pbhcyr dhvgr rneyl ba. Lbh nyfb unir gb tb guebhtu gur qhatrba bapr zber. Ohg guvf gvzr, lbh'er abg yvzvgrq gb fbzr chal unaqtha. Ab, fur tbrf naq trgf ure Z130 tngyvat tha. Ab zber qhatrba penjyvat; lbh yvgrenyyl fubbg guebhtu gur sybbe gb trg gb gur arkg yriry. Unysjnl guebhtu, gurl gnxr n oernx naq rng. Gurer'f nyfb gnyx nobhg jung gur gernfher vf. Fnln fhttrfgf n gvzr znpuvar, naq qvfphffvba nobhg vg bpphef. Lbh raq hc ng gur 8gu sybbe ntnva, naq guebhtu hfntr bs Evxv nf n fuvryq, Fnln qrsrngf Xlbhfhxr. Ur nyybjf lbh gb trg gur gernfher ba gur 60gu sybbe, fb lbh gnxr gur ryringbe qbja gurer. Gurer'f n fvatyr ebbz pybfrq bss ol n qbbe naq n ynetr jvaqbj arkg gb vg. Fnln gryyf Evxv gb jnvg juvyr fur tbrf gb purpx vg bhg. Fur tbrf va, ybbxf guebhtu gur cynpr, naq pbzr gb gur jvaqbj ercbegvat gung vg'f n ovbybtvpny jrncba (gurer'f n synfuonpx jurer Xlbhfhxr nfxf Fnln jung fur jnagf gur gernfher gb or, naq fur ercyvrf gung fur jnagf n ovbybtvpny jrncba), naq gung fur jba'g or znxvat vg bhg. Evxv gevrf trggvat va gurer gb uryc ure, ohg gur qbbe'f ybpxrq naq gur jvaqbj vf ohyyrg cebbs. Frrvat nf ubj gurer'f ab jnl sbe ure gb trg bhg, naq gung vg'yy whfg or cnvashy qlvat gur bgure jnl, Fnln cbvagf gur tha ng ure urnq. Evxv gevrf fgbccvat ure, ohg vg'f ab hfr. Fur chyyf gur gevttre. Raqvat gurzr (ragvgyrq "Fnln'f Fbat") naq perqvgf ebyy. Nsgre gur RQ, Xlbhfhxr pbzrf gb gnyx gb Evxv, fnlvat gung gurer'f gnyx nobhg gur funqbj thlf univat fbzr fbeg bs gvzr znpuvar, naq gung lbh'yy or noyr gb zrrg Fnln ntnva fbzr qnl. Fprar bs Nln naq ure sngure fubjf (sebz jura gurl jrer va Wncna). Nln jnxrf sebz ure qernz (gur jbeyq Evxv & pb. ner va) naq gnyxf gb uvz nobhg vg. Nsgrejneqf, ur gryyf ure gb tb cynl jvgu gur obl fur'f sevraqf jvgu. Fur abgrf gung obgu bs gurz ner anzrq Evxv. Gur raq.

Sasami's: Guvf ebhgr onfvpnyyl ercynprf gur "abezny" raqvat, jurer lbh hfrq gb abg trg ba nal ebhgr. Nsgre jurer gung raqvat jbhyq abeznyyl gnxr cynpr, vg fxvcf n srj zbaguf nurnq, cnfg gur raq bs Ersenva. Bar qnl, n oynpx png fgnegf sbyybjvat Evxv nebhaq. Ur cynaf gb xrrc vg, fvapr vg frrzf gb yvxr uvz. Ohg qhevat gur avtug, Fnfnzv fubjf hc va uvf ebbz. Nccrnef fur'f gur png. Guebhtu fbzr ernfbavat, gurl svther bhg gung Fnfnzv pnaabg or n uhzna bhgfvqr bs Evxv'f ebbz, naq vs nalbar jbhyq abgvpr ure vafvqr gur ebbz, fur'q ghea onpx vagb gur png. Fvapr Evxv unf gb gnxr pner bs guvf fbzrubj, gurl xvpx bhg Znfngb. Evxv tbrf bhg naq gevrf gb svaq pyhrf nf gb jung'f unccravat. Ur abgvprf gung ur pnaabg tb cnfg gur onpx tneqra; gurer'f na vaivfvoyr jnyy. Jvgu rira zber ernfbavat, gurl svther bhg gung guvf vf n jbeyq whfg yvxr Evxv & pb. jrer va sbe gur riragf bs gur ragver erfg bs gur tnzr. Ubjrire, jura Evxv gryyf uvf sevraqf nobhg jung'f unccravat, gurl qvfnccrne sebz gur jbeyq. Fb, gurl unir gjb bcgvbaf: jnvg sbe gur jbeyq gb pehzoyr njnl bs vgf bja nppbeq, be shysvyy gur jvfu bs gur crefba jub perngrq gur jbeyq. Evxv pbzrf hc jvgu gur vqrn gung Fnfnzv zvtug unir znqr vg va beqre gb trg pybfre gb Xratb, ohg vg gnxrf n juvyr sbe ure gb trg gur pbhentr gb gel gb pbasebag uvz. Jura gurl qb, fur nfxf Evxv gb nfx Xratb vs ur erzrzoref jung ur qvq sbe ure. Ur erzrzoref gung ur erghearq ure wrefrl gb ure jura fur ybfg vg va gur evire. Ohg vg jnfa'g npghnyyl uvz gung srgpurq vg bhg. Evxv naq ur gevrq gb trg vg jvgu n fgvpx, ohg vg fgnegrq sybngvat njnl. Evxv whzcrq va gb trg vg naq gbyq Xratb gb tb erghea vg juvyr ur punatrq pybgurf. Fb vg jnf npghnyyl Evxv gung qvq gung sbe ure. Xratb qvfnccrnef. Gung jnfa'g gur perngbe'f jvfu, nccneragyl. Qhevat gur ragver riragf bs guvf fgbel Evxv unf orra univat qernzf. Ohg gurl'er abg npghnyyl qernzf, ohg engur, gur zrzbevrf bs gur perngbe bs gur jbeyq. Fb nsgre univat bar zber, ur tbrf bhg naq svaqf gung ur pna trg cnfg gur jnyy, bayl gb svaq n oynpx png. Vg nccrnef gb unir orra Fnfnzv'f png sebz n ybat gvzr ntb. Gurl tbg nybat jryy, ohg jura gurl arrqrq gb zbir, vg jnf abjurer nebhaq, fb fur unq gb yrnir vg oruvaq. Fur pnzr onpx sbe vg, ohg arire sbhaq vg. Vg yvirq ba sbe n srj lrnef hagvy vg sbhaq ure ntnva. Ubjrire, fur ershfrq gb yvxr nal oynpx pngf bapr fur ybfg gung svefg bar, fb fur cerggl zhpu vtaberq vg. Fb gur ernfba gung guvf jbeyq jnf perngrq jnf fb gur png pbhyq fcraq gvzr jvgu Fnfnzv. Gurl tb bhg gb zrrg vg, ohg gur jnyy'f gurer. Fnfnzv gura fubjf Evxv jurer gurl pna rkvg gur jbeyq jvgubhg zrrgvat gur png, naq chfurf uvz bhg nybar. Fur guvaxf gur png zhfg ungr ure, naq qbrfa'g jnag Evxv gb or pnhtug hc va vg. Gubhtu gur cbjre bs ybir (cyrnfr xvyy zr), Evxv znantrf gb znxr vg onpx naq pbaivaprf ure bgurejvfr (juvyr pbasrffvat ng gur fnzr gvzr). Gurl tb bhg gb zrrg gur png, fur naq vg trg nybat hagvy vg svanyyl cnffrf njnl. Gurl erghea gb gur abezny jbeyq naq ohel gur png. Gur raq.

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2008-08-08 03:27
Sieg I'd like the info as spoilery as possible. I plan to get the game, but I'd like to know anyway, especially since I don't have any good translation equipment.
2008-08-07 14:16
Asceai Uh... how spoilery do you want the information? Because I really think you'd be better off just playing the game.

Or are you considering whether or not to buy it?
2008-08-07 12:28
Sieg So, can anyone tell me just what it is that happens in the three new main plot lines? I am really interested in Saya's, but the others seem good too. Thanks!

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