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AstCd2
2005-02-08, 03:01
In the spirit of Haeleth's new policy, I've started up the Key news thread again. Feel free to share any rumours, announcements, insights or other interesting items regarding Key and their work.

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2/2/05: Orito undertakes to put out some kind of gift for the fans after the Key site gets 30,000,000 hits.
What it'll be is unknown/undecided at this point.

Haeleth
2005-02-08, 05:47
観鈴ちんかわいい~ (ハート)

Slight nitpick to the translation of 2005-2-2, though... I wouldn't exactly say any promises had been made, it's more like "I thought it would be nice to give everyone a present, but couldn't think of anything... I guess I'll keep my eyes open", i.e. "you suckaz ain't geddin' zip".

zalas
2005-02-08, 12:59
So it wasn't this huh?
http://blog.livedoor.jp/uirou/24361640.jpg

AstCd2
2005-02-09, 04:28
Slight nitpick to the translation of 2005-2-2, though... I wouldn't exactly say any promises had been made, it's more like "I thought it would be nice to give everyone a present, but couldn't think of anything... I guess I'll keep my eyes open", i.e. "you suckaz ain't geddin' zip".

I guess I'm just a hopeless optimist =P

So it wasn't this huh?
http://blog.livedoor.jp/uirou/24361640.jpg

Related (only not really) thread:
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/leaf/1107667651/l50

AstCd2
2005-02-22, 00:21
キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━ッ!!

Versammeln has added "Air Standard Edition (DVD Version)" to its release list for 8/4/05. It'll be 18+, as the first Kanon Standard Edition was. Key hasn't made an announcement yet, but odds are pretty good that the info is at least partially correct, as versammeln was first to call Kanon Standard Edition too.

http://www.product.co.jp/soft00.asp

JudicatorOmega
2005-02-22, 01:14
Well that certainly is good news. ~Standard Edition~ means ~Affordable Price~ ^_^.

Haeleth
2005-02-22, 04:01
Versammeln = VisualArt's official site (I think), so I'd say it's pretty reliable.

Except when they announce a CLANNAD release date.

Soulfang
2005-02-22, 12:29
キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━ッ!!

Versammeln has added "Air Standard Edition (DVD Version)" to its release list for 8/4/05. It'll be 18+, as the first Kanon Standard Edition was. Key hasn't made an announcement yet, but odds are pretty good that the info is at least partially correct, as versammeln was first to call Kanon Standard Edition too.

http://www.product.co.jp/soft00.asp
It was only a matter of time, but cool nonetheless.

AstCd2
2005-03-25, 21:29
For some utterly unfathomable reason, Key seems to have been enlisted to promote tourism in the Wakayama prefecture
(it's speculated that Air might be set in Wakayama, but the characters are all from Clannad).

http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/

Actual PR site here:

http://www.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/prefg/130600/cn/302.html

Fuuko-tan☆:

http://www.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/prefg/130600/cn/p/takijiriouji.jpg

GreatSaintLouis
2005-03-26, 03:07
Excuse my ignorance, but where is Wakayama prefecture in relation to Okayama prefecture?

AstCd2
2005-03-26, 03:32
Excuse my ignorance, but where is Wakayama prefecture in relation to Okayama prefecture?

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http://www.outdoorjapan.com/images/map-japan.jpg
Okayama and Wakayama are both towards the mid-bottom-left of the map.

GreatSaintLouis
2005-03-26, 04:34
Okay, so it's close-ish. I know where Okayama is, and know that Hiroshima is next to it, and know the approximate locations of Osaka, Tokyo, and Sendai, but that's the extent of my Japanese geography.

I'm going to swipe that map, I don't have any references and it could come in handy. ^__^ Thanks!

zalas
2005-03-26, 05:08
(onore) Koyasan should be in Wakayama prefecture, or somewhere abouts, right?

AstCd2
2005-03-26, 05:12
Yeah, it is.

http://www.pref.wakayama.lg.jp/english/access/img/map_s.gif

元ネタのスレはここですよ、お兄さん

許すまじ、高野山金剛峰寺!巻之十九
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/leaf/1085588385/l50

鍵の聖地は和歌山に決定しました
http://pie.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/leaf/1111757661/l50

AstCd2
2005-03-26, 22:55
[EDIT]おのれ、Keisuke!
レスを消しやがって!

Keisuke
2005-03-26, 22:55
http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/product/air/image/airse_pack_m.jpg

The box art of AIR DVD.

ERRR.... That is not Itaru's drawing right? o_O

AstCd2
2005-03-26, 22:56
Welcome to Post-Itaruism =P

Keisuke
2005-03-26, 22:58
Well, the game will still have Itaru's art in it though. XP

Do you know who's art that is? That is not Goto P's I am pretty sure...

AstCd2
2005-03-26, 23:00
It's Itaru's, unrecognizable as it is.
Refer to this thread for more of her recent art:
http://forums.haeleth.net/viewtopic.php?t=212

Keisuke
2005-03-26, 23:03
I see. Huge change I have to say..

Yeah, that Kano's smiling face still kinda does look like Itaru's old-style.

[EDIT]おのれ、Keisuke!
レスを消しやがって!
Sumimasen, Asuto-san~ XP
I forgot to log in before I post the thing.

zalas
2005-03-27, 01:50
Kano's pose looks like it might be from the artbook :/

AstCd2
2005-08-11, 05:23
http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/lovesong/ls_reported.htm

No, there's no new staff diary entry, but the Key music label has seen fit to subtly sneak out a new album.

Music by Maeda Jun, vocals by riya, and art by Yoshitoshi Abe of Serial Experiments Lain and Haibane Renmei fame.

zalas
2005-08-11, 05:42
Interesting....

7. 灰色の羽根

AstCd2
2005-08-30, 17:41
It seems the elusive Key art director Hinoue Itaru is still alive and in business.
She did the cover for this month's Megami magazine.

http://www.e-animedia.net/images/250X300/megami/0510_megami.jpg

I do wonder what Key's next game is going to look like (or if she'll be doing the art at all),
given her recent significant changes in art style.

What's that you say? Slow news day?

zalas
2005-08-30, 21:24
I think I'm gonna try to get that issue of Megami <_<;

Keisuke
2005-09-01, 08:36
Larger scan for those who need it.

http://www.myimgs.com/data/PKIM/misukana.jpg

It is not that I don't like Itaru's new drawing style, but it will take really long time for me to get use to her new style. I kinda like her older arts too...

AstCd2
2005-09-07, 06:16
http://upatea.sakura.ne.jp/sb.cgi?day=20050902

Further news on amazing changing Itaru art style, sourced from within the magazine above.


According to Itaru-sensei, she received numerous pointers after Kanon. Consequentially, she narrowed the faces and reduced the size of the eyes ever so slightly for Air (in spite of this, they were still large).

Subsequently, her art underwent continuous change and strayed ever further from that used in Air. According to her, she likes the loli-style , and you can see the results in the cover illustration above. It seems she also does the designs for the uniforms and casual clothes herself, drawing while consulting the rest of the staff.

It is also announced that once again, she is working on the art designs for a new Key title - although given how deep into the loli spectrum her art's moved, it might be difficult for them to make it an 18+ game. Of course, she didn't do a lot of ero to begin with anyway. I suppose it'll have an impact on the scenario, and it'll just be intended as an all-ages game from the start like they did with Clannad.

勝手に翻訳してスマナイ!


The particularly interesting part, of course, is the mention of a new title. It can't be Tomoyo After if Itaru is working on it - could development on the next 'proper' Key title finally be underway? Are there any men of valour here who've actually purchased Megami and are in a position to post the interview in question?

Related
Large scan of picture in question:
http://www.corebooks.jp/tuhan/zassi/2005/gakken/4910086431055.jpg
Original Source:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/megyumi/20050829

Nani
2005-09-08, 06:52
Here you go.

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/txt.th.jpg (http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=txt.jpg)

In return, may I ask you a favour to translate the last paragraph? Do they mention something about a sequel to AIR?

AstCd2
2005-09-08, 07:05
Thanks.
The last paragraph reads:


"Though we are talking about our own work, Air really is a fantastic story, and thus we hope a lot of people watch it now that it has become an anime. We'd be even happier if they also went and played the original game - although I'm honestly rather embarrassed about the dated art style (laugh).

We often hear requests for a sequel to Air, but the staff are unanimous in their opinion that making a new story would be more interesting than a sequel, so if possible, we'd like to ask everyone to anticipate that instead. We're currently earnestly working away on the title I'm currently doing the designs for, so please do look forward to it."

Haeleth
2005-09-08, 07:12
Keyのスタッフはみんな、続編よりも新作を作るほうが楽しいという人たち
So that's why they're making "Tomoyo After"! I understand at last.

Oh, wait... :P

(Come on, AstCd2, I was expecting a full translation by now... ^_^)

AstCd2
2005-09-08, 07:16
So that's why they're making "Tomoyo After"! I understand at last.


"本作はCLANNADとは別の作品です。登場人物(キャラクター)や
世界観などあらゆる類似に関わらず、両作品に関係はございません。"

It's not a sequel, I tell you! Really! =P


(Come on, AstCd2, I was expecting a full translation by now... ^_^)
ぶっちゃけ無理っス ヽ(´∀`)

hir
2005-09-10, 08:25
[quote=Haeleth]
(Come on, AstCd2, I was expecting a full translation by now... ^_^)
ぶっちゃけ無理っス ヽ(´∀`)

Allow me then....but ぶっちゃけそっちの訳の方がうまいorz > AstCd2

---Firstly, please give us your impression on watching "AIR" animation.
H: It's like "hey you did a miraculous job to animate THIS picture!" Of course it's an animation so it's supposed to move, but I was very impressed. I hesitate to say this, but I think my drawings are difficult to turn into animation, or to make them move. But they were actually moving quite naturally and smoothly. And they were my drawings, just as they are! All I can say is that they are marvelous. I guess the anime staffs played the game countless times. They do understand the atomspheres and characteristics of each charas very well. The same goes to the Charas' movements and inadvertent behavings, too, like "yeah, this chara sure would do that." Misuzu and everyone else that I imagined how they would be were there in the screen.

--Which scenes made you feel that, specifically?
H: For example, the scene where Misuzu tucks her skirt in when she crouches down. In the game we can only show limited scenes in a single picture, so things like that was too specific to depict. Key's scenario writer was jumping with joy when he saw the "Kunizaki saiko-" scene. He was saying "How wonderful of them to make it into a stand-alone scene and draw it up." It's not an important scene at all storywise, but it seemed that he had particular interest in writing that scene.(laugh)

--Charas who originally had no pictures like Ryuuya and Yukito's mother were drawn up in Anime. Did they match the images within you?
H: We didn't specifi anything in particular, and entrusted the design works to anime staffs. The result was fitting, acceptable without any opposition. Actually I really didn't have clear images of Ryuuya and others within me, so I was rather convinced that "Oh that's how Ryuuya really looked like!"(laugh)

--How do you take your steps in designing your characters?
H: Say in Minagi's case, I get rough instructions from scenario writers like "a tall girl". For a while I keep reading those instructions I received again and again, expanding the image inside my mind. And when the image takes shape I draw it up all at once. If you put too much thinking into it you won't be able to draw, so it's almost pure sensation. The charas in "AIR" were all like that, and were accepted with no trouble.

--Who was the first chara you designed in "AIR"?
H: Misuzu. "AIR" project itself was up and running moments before the release of "Kanon", and that was when I drew Misuzu saying "How's this for the next game's heroine?" The scenario wasn't finished at that point and the story had changed drastically from the starting line, but the design of Misuzu stayed the same. Main herione usually gets fixed at the very last point in Key, because we brush up designs taking overall balance into account. Misuzu is a special case.

--Do you design costumes like school uniforms, too?
H: Yes. There were no particular instructions on uniforms in "AIR", so I could do the drawing quite freely. I like Gothic-Lolita style clothes so I incorporated those designs, like the cross in the chest. As a matter of fact I wanted to color the "Kanon" uniform black. But the planner had his likings and rejected the idea, so it got colored red. Since then I had in mind that "AIR"'s uniform should be "definitely black!" I was told to make things look normal in "CLANNAD", so both the coloring and the design are more common compared to the 2 prior works.
There were instructions from scenario writers regarding daily clothes, so if I drew them on based on my taste he'd tell me "This is kind of clothing I hate!"(laugh) The scenario writer seems to like clothes with laces and frills, so at times like that I show him fashion magazines for women and let him choose clothes he prefers. The magazines I refer to are "non-no" and "ViVi". I try to choose those with casual clothings. Personally I want to adopt clothes popular to wide majority of women into my designs.

--Are there any original methods you practice when you design your characters?
H: When I did "AIR"'s chara design, I intentionally changed my drawing style to be more accepted by the general public. After the release of "Kanon" I received lots of opinions from the people around regarding my drawing style, so I made the face thinner, which was formerly rather collapsed. I also made the eyes a bit smaller and the figure taller. As for my drawing trial-and-error is still going on. My recent style has changed considerably since the time of "AIR", as you can see from this issue's cover illustration. But I basically like loli-style drawings so that's the part that doesn't change.(laugh)

--Finally, a word for our readers.
H: It is our work but it's a VERY good story, so I hope more and more people watch "AIR" adopted into animation. And if they play the original game as well I'll be more than happy. The design is old so it is embarrasing to be honest, though.(laugh) I often hear comments asking for "AIR" sequel, but all the Key staffs are people who enjoy creating new games rather than making sequels, so I'd ask fans out there to anticipate for the new game. A title which I do the main graphics is under development too, so please look forward to it.

AstCd2
2005-09-10, 08:34
乙華麗!

l|ammamama
2005-09-10, 08:50
A great read, thanks a ton!

zalas
2005-09-10, 10:13
Key's scenario writer was jumping with joy when he saw the "Kunizaki saiko-" scene. He was saying "How wonderful of them to make it into a stand-alone scene and draw it up." It's not an important scene at all storywise, but it seemed that he had particular interest in writing that scene.(laugh)
Meanwhile 40,000 2chers scream out in joy! キタ━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━!!
いやっほぅ!! アニメ版最高!

zalas
2005-09-24, 17:24
If any of you are big Key fans and haven't bought that October issue of Megami yet, I would urge you to buy it, especially if you're a big fan of Minagi. There's a nice 4 page spread poster of her holding her sand of the stars. It's illustrated beautifullly in my opinion.

l|ammamama
2005-09-24, 19:38
hmm are those easy to come across in the US?

AstCd2
2005-09-24, 19:51
While not exactly 'easy to come across', they're certainly available.
You can get Megami from certain Japanese bookstores like Kinokuniya, or other stores stocking/willing to order foreign magazines. I'm told it's even possible to have them mailed to you from certain stores (at prohibitive costs).

zalas
2005-09-24, 20:39
I bought mine at the San Jose Kinokuniya store. They carded me to make sure I was 18 before purchasing it, even though nothing in the magazine was explicit. The most sketchy picture in there was a tiny b&w picture of Tomoyo with her chest showing, decorated by two stars XD.

Misu
2005-09-25, 10:18
hmm are those easy to come across in the US?

Megami is always carried by Kinokunyia in the Seattle Uwajimiya. Now trying to get my hands on that issue of Push is a lot more difficult *sigh*.